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Posted 05 July 2010 - 10:08 AM

Hello Everyone,
I've got some significant progress to report. In addition to Dr. Dale Jordan I have a new supporter, Dr. Laura Weisel of POWERPATH fame. She was recommended and introduced to me by Dr. Jordan and described as one of the best known and highly regarded experts in the field of adult learning disabilities in the world today. Dr. Weisel has viewed most of the classroom videos of my 5 PI readers and agrees that I am definitely onto something significant. She and I both feel that somehow VSS goes hand in hand with Print Inverted reading, but we still aren't sure how they are connected.

Just as many of the Forum members have recommended in the past, Dr. Weisel feels that getting a Research College or University to do a scientifically based study is key to gaining recognition for my work and the validation I need. I am in the process of doing just that. I am also in the process of building a PI website to act as a clearing house for anything and everything to do with Upside Down reading and writing.

Also, Dr. Steven Waner (known as PASCHAL on the WWW) has given me significant support over the last 4 or 5 months. He has viewed the videos and believes that mirror reading and writing is tied closely with Print Inverted R&W. Dr. Waner is an expert in the field of MIRROR READING, and is, in fact a MIRROR READER himself. For those of you who are not familiar with mirror reading, it is exactly the same form of dyslexia that Leonardo DaVinci exhibited in his incredible journals. Dr. Waner has been working with thousands of Mirror Readers all over the world and specializes in computer technology that helps them function easily on the World Wide Web and in day-to-day living.

I will keep everyone posted as more develops.

Best wishes to all,
Teacherman
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Posted 05 July 2010 - 12:03 PM

Hi Teacherman,

Welcome back.

You might be interested in the work of a guy who has been posting on Youtube about dyslexia. He believes dyslexia is caused by forcing children to scan text against their preferred scanning direction. (left to right or right to left). That could link in to your reading upside down observations - as upside down text is scanned in the opposite direction.

Here is one of his youtube vids: http://www.youtube.c...u/0/oZ9zJgXVbYs

He believes being forced to read in in the wrong direction 'causes' dyslexia. This direction of causality seems mixed up to me. But there does seem to be some overlap between your observations and his and it might be worth getting in touch.

I hope you can start posting on a new thread so we can get away from the heading 'cure dyslexia before it begins' - which I still find offensive.

All the best.
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Posted 06 July 2010 - 05:16 AM

This is directly aimed at Teacherman


The Greek meaning may explain the work itself (dyslexia) however this site explains

the disorder.

I am no expert, I was pretty oblivious about my disorder until a couple of years ago.

1. Dyslexia is a problem with language, communication, expressing ones self.
2. Dyslexia is part of the same family as Autism (perhaps you should go read up
about that.)
3. Dyslexics have a range of difficulties which show up differently for everyone,
there are no 2 dyslexics the same.
and the list goes on.
4. You can not re-wire a brain, or re-develop its language side.

The medication that helps schizophrenics, does that cure them or does it modify their behavior so they are more able to cope with every day life?

Where the dyslexic brain hindered in language it is hightened in other areas.

You are thinking to narrowly, you are only thinking in terms of reading, not the whole
picture of dyslexia as full bodied disorder.

So if the kid does suceed with his reading what about the writing isn't that just as important. Have you incorporated into your plan the different styles of writing, the inconsistancy in spelling?

I can read upside down does that mean I am cured?


"Quote teacherman:
I do not, by any stretch of the imagination, consider dyslexia a disease. I agree with

Ron Davis – that it is a gift. However, I believe that unless a child is shown early-on

that he has this gift, problems arise very quickly. quote"


Again you are looking at it from one aspect reading! If you really talked to a dyslexic you would have found out that we are the masters when it comes to hiding, avoiding and coping and adapting to reading and writing, we can still get by it is not the be all the end all and we have successful lives.

You tell me what that gift is? Can you ? Do you have any idea?

You talk of spelling tests.
I was diagnosed in about grade 3 with dyslexia. I had to read allowed 50 words in a spelling test that year.
My mother practised and practiced with me and I got them all right. I only passed because I had it so hammered into me that I could not forget, however 2 weeks later I probably would have forgotten most of them.


So your subject title still says "cure dyslexia before it begins"
So what the child is reading and writing at a 2nd grade level right side up.
Are you or your system going to be there when he or she hits high school?
We may think we know how to spell, thought we knew, hoped we knew, knew yesterday, but the brain is running the show, and if it decides it is not having a good day then it is not having a good day, we don't have any control it is just so.

Your theory is all good and well, but most of us and most of future dyslexics will not be diagnosed in kindergarten, how will you help those that are diagnosed when they are 10, 12, 14.

I don't know about the rest of the world but the school system here, especially the public one is not that great, in this country you can easily have a child slip though the system who does not know how to read or write properly and they may not even be dyslexic.

"Quote teacherman
No more reading difficulty.
No more "dyslexia". Quote"

You don't listen do you, and you obviously don't do much research do you. Have you read anything that anybody has posted here?

By all means if you can help out a dyslexic read a bit better or understand reading
and writing go for it, but look at the whole picture, if you don't you are missing the boat.

Just because they learn to read and write does not mean they will not be labeled, a lot of dyslexics have social problems.

I left school in the first year of high school because my self esteem was so low, it was not beacause I was doing badly in school or could not cope with school work, it was because I could not make friends.

I have stuggled with myself and my mind for years, today I trust my own judgement.

Reading and writing may help you get a job, it will make it easier to go to the supermarket, However it will not help you deal with your mind, your frustrations, your fears, your limitations.

"Quote, / General information / dyslexic summary (this site)

The effects of dyslexia reach well beyond the classroom.

Quote"

Look in the common signs of dyslexia on this site and you will see that teaching them
to read and write does not guarantee comprehension of what they have read or written.
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Posted 06 July 2010 - 09:49 AM

I have to agree with Rod that I have to start posting on a new thread - and I will starting today. I apologize once again to anyone who has taken offence to the title, because that was never my intention. I do have one question in closing, though.

If a child leaves first grade reading, writing and spelling on (or above) grade level, and continues to exhibit no problems reading, writing and spelling as the years go by, would that child ever be labeled "dyslexic"?

Let me suggest that perhaps the new label could be "gifted and talented".


Sincerely,
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Posted 06 July 2010 - 11:10 AM

View Postteacherman, on 06 July 2010 - 09:49 AM, said:

If a child leaves first grade reading, writing and spelling on (or above) grade level, and continues to exhibit no problems reading, writing and spelling as the years go by, would that child ever be labeled "dyslexic"?


In my estimation, there are many children who have the brain pattern that we call 'dyslexic' but who nevertheless manage to aquire literacy well enough that they do not sink so low in the education system and are therefore never tested and never identified as dyslexic. Particularly if the school in question is averse to screening the students.

They may well have have poor short term memory, strong visual/spatial thinking, have difficulty telling left from right, be great problem solvers/lateral thinkers, have difficulty tracking time, be gifted at reading emotions in others etc etc etc.

Now - please let's move to a thread with a better heading. I know you have moved on since you first wrote that and so it probably doesen't reflect your present views.
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