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Posted 29 July 2010 - 11:22 PM

OK we have dyslexia ye,not our faults, this was not picked up for a lot of adults,the education department let us down and did not pick this up,so why should we have to PAY, to receive support, so we can for fill our full potential, that they failed us on getting in the first place, make us pay again why not, does anyone else feel this.
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Posted 29 July 2010 - 11:43 PM

View PostD & A, on 30 July 2010 - 12:22 AM, said:

OK we have dyslexia ye,not our faults, this was not picked up for a lot of adults,the education department let us down and did not pick this up,so why should we have to PAY, to receive support, so we can for fill our full potential, that they failed us on getting in the first place, make us pay again why not, does anyone else feel this.


I agree, but whoever said life was fair?
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Posted 30 July 2010 - 12:29 AM

i had to wait till i got a really good employer to get one. knowing how i feel about it now, i think i would have shelled out for it. but not then, too much.

when i was at school i don't think it had been recognised as a problem. this was up north where they point at planes. and this is under fight path of leeds bradford airport, bless em. guess its the equvilent of asking for a cat scan twenty years back. not part of regular practice.

we say lucky mind you, but i do wonder if the young uns are given an easy ride whether they will learn to struggle and make it on their own? often the parents still have to pay for tests and extra tuition tho. its a bit of a postcode lottery on if you get anything at all.

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Posted 30 July 2010 - 07:15 AM

Life is never fair...! Odly in higher education if you are dysleixci there is some assistant available to you. Now the 'majority' of non dyslexic students I have spoken to have implied that they think this is unfiar....they think we are being given an advantage :lol:

Im working with someone at the moment gathering information from research papers. I decided on the onset that Id mention that Im dyslexic. The repsonse was 'how does that work then, a person in my halls of residence was given a laptop and a printer, thats not fair'.

we needed to get some software to help us organise our references, now to get this we had to go to see a member of staff who can be a bit difficult to comunicate with, I ended up saying look I have to have this on my laptop as I'm dyslexic, and he was very quick to say ok then and gave it too us both. This was greeted by the girl again as, this isnt fair I want to be dysleic.

I like this girl but Im starting to think shes a bit of an ignoramous.

The project we are working on involves A LOT of reading, which Im fine with working on my own, its only if Im working along side someone I notice Im slower. Now I no longer think that this is a disadvantage, this is just me, my new software does help, and Im lucky that I dont seem to be effected by the comprehension difficulties (in general) that a lot of dyslexics have. also I can skim read ( a skill I picked up from doing a bit of study in the OU)
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Posted 01 August 2010 - 07:43 AM

View PostD & A, on 30 July 2010 - 12:22 AM, said:

OK we have dyslexia ye,not our faults, this was not picked up for a lot of adults,the education department let us down and did not pick this up,so why should we have to PAY, to receive support, so we can for fill our full potential, that they failed us on getting in the first place, make us pay again why not, does anyone else feel this.


I disagree, one might simply argue that having known you were a dyslexic does not mean you would have become anymore successful. Besides, given the state of public finances are hardly believe the state should be responsible. Having said that I do believe there is a case that those qualified should provide assessments to individuals at a reduced cost depending on their circumstances.
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Posted 01 August 2010 - 04:14 PM

Hi Ishi, I am not saying that I would have been more successful, I just saying I would have loved the opportunity to gain my education like others did, none dyslexic, I was left out all the time at school, because I did not understand what they wanted me to do, no friends as such because I was seen as different, I was bullied at school,who els would you say was responsible, then me, "assessments to individuals at a reduced cost depending on their circumstances". That comes back to why should we have to pay? I work in a job that I don't like,because I don't have an education not a great deal of money and you want me to pay again, dyslexia assessments and support should be free for all.
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Posted 01 August 2010 - 05:06 PM

View PostlankyT, on 30 July 2010 - 08:15 AM, said:

Life is never fair...! Odly in higher education if you are dysleixci there is some assistant available to you. Now the 'majority' of non dyslexic students I have spoken to have implied that they think this is unfiar....they think we are being given an advantage :lol:

Im working with someone at the moment gathering information from research papers. I decided on the onset that Id mention that Im dyslexic. The repsonse was 'how does that work then, a person in my halls of residence was given a laptop and a printer, thats not fair'.

we needed to get some software to help us organise our references, now to get this we had to go to see a member of staff who can be a bit difficult to comunicate with, I ended up saying look I have to have this on my laptop as I'm dyslexic, and he was very quick to say ok then and gave it too us both. This was greeted by the girl again as, this isnt fair I want to be dysleic.

I like this girl but Im starting to think shes a bit of an ignoramous.

The project we are working on involves A LOT of reading, which Im fine with working on my own, its only if Im working along side someone I notice Im slower. Now I no longer think that this is a disadvantage, this is just me, my new software does help, and Im lucky that I dont seem to be effected by the comprehension difficulties (in general) that a lot of dyslexics have. also I can skim read ( a skill I picked up from doing a bit of study in the OU)


I read about some reserch were they took a group of poor and black children and their families (in the US), tested the children IQ at an average of 95
then change their envioment (the hole family not just the children). Their IQ rose on average to 115. The families went home and the IQ's dropt to 105.

You could you argue that these children were disabled by their envioment just like us. If so they mite think we are lucky. You could argue that we are gifted and still get free lap tops, thats lucky. It is just perspective rather than ignorance I think.
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Posted 01 August 2010 - 05:29 PM

I think more should be done to help dyslexic kids.

If you have a medical issue the NHS will deal with it, or you can go private if you want, either way you get treated or seen by a medical proffessional.

All childeren are also suposed to be educated to a fair standard at a cost to the public purse, or again you could go private. With dyslexia you are not properly supported by default, parents need to fight like crazy to get anything, and sometimes what you get simply isn't enough to meet your childs needs anyway. Dyslexic people can be taught to read and write, but those governng the public purse don't want to pay to educate their staff or very many of the dyslexic childeren. So many parents take their childs education into their own hands, buying books, specific support equipment, or getting private dyslexia tutition. If teachers were properly trained to support dyslexic students, more specialist teachers were on hand and there were more acess to ed phys, then there would be less need for DSA for dyslexics, and a least a lesser cost to parents, AND less iliterate teens and adults.

I think dyslexia assesments should be free or more affordable, like medical assesments are, as once you leave education the problems don't just go away. But sadly dyslexia still exists in a bit of a grey area.

In short I think the standars of support needs to be better, though going private should still be an option (and would maybe need to be for some).

As to the girl envying your dyslexia, there are other ways to get DSA, especially if she is up for being hit about the head with a mallet...I'll provide one if she is interested :P
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Posted 01 August 2010 - 07:26 PM

View PostBubblewrapPrincess, on 01 August 2010 - 06:29 PM, said:

As to the girl envying your dyslexia, there are other ways to get DSA, especially if she is up for being hit about the head with a mallet...I'll provide one if she is interested :P



she might get a parking permit aswell then ;)
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Posted 01 August 2010 - 07:59 PM

View PostD & A, on 01 August 2010 - 05:14 PM, said:

Hi Ishi, I am not saying that I would have been more successful, I just saying I would have loved the opportunity to gain my education like others did, none dyslexic, I was left out all the time at school, because I did not understand what they wanted me to do, no friends as such because I was seen as different, I was bullied at school,who els would you say was responsible, then me, "assessments to individuals at a reduced cost depending on their circumstances". That comes back to why should we have to pay? I work in a job that I don't like,because I don't have an education not a great deal of money and you want me to pay again, dyslexia assessments and support should be free for all.


I understand that these things can be tough and I am fortunate to not have the same problems as you. However there are opportunities out there that could help you, for example you could try and study part-time/at a distance. I did my undergrad degree at the open university because I failed the first time around at a conventional university. They offer some very practical help to their "disabled" students and if you present your dyslexia to them they might be able to help you get an assessment. This isn't likely to be as easy as it sounds, but it is a way forward. Check out their website, they do courses at all levels and I've always found learning such a boost.
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Posted 02 August 2010 - 07:18 AM

or you could give going back to study full-time ago..! depending on your situation there is still some financial support available out there.

I did some OU study, then a free course at college, then I got brave and decided it was now or never, did an access course for uni, then I went to uni (four years) now Im doing a PhD.

Overall I found studying easier than I did when I was younger as being able to use a laptop and word packages compared to having to hand write it all, which Im not sure I would have been able to do.


what are your dreams D and A, was there something you really wanted to do when you were younger? Was there something that inspired you and the eduacation system squashed it out of you? Its never too late to pick up those dreams and give it a go.
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Posted 02 August 2010 - 09:05 AM

My dreams are to set up a dyslexia centre in Coventry,because there are still kids going with out there education,I can not believe that it is still going on in this day and age,and that the education system has to change, I work full time and different shifts so it is hard for me to go college, because of the times they run,Ive tried home study, but i need more support, i will get there because i will not give up.
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